EDTA is also used in fertilizers so that elements (usually iron) are taken up more readily (because they’re soluble). That’s very interesting Janet. (You can look up EDTA in Wikipedia if you want to see how it’s made.) It is certainly possible that the baits are poisonous to birds, but I want to caution you that correlation does not necessarily indicate causation. But I have seen people who owned dogs piling pounds of Sluggo around every plant, as if mulching. I used iron phosphate on my compost pile because of the snails – no wonder there are no worms! These wonderful plants are telling us something we really need to understand. So then the question is, how did I not know about the potential problems of iron phosphate? Yes, vinegar will kill any plants it touches, so be sure to apply it only to dandelions or other weeds themselves and save your grass. Advancing the science of gardening and other stuff since 2009. And not only that, these iron phosphate baits can also be toxic to other animals such as dogs. Smashing Pumpkin Myths: Bleaching to extend shelf (and porch) life, https://www.hostalibrary.org/firstlook/RRIronPhosphate.htm. I would use slug bait stations but when I put beer in those? They aren’t an indicator of nutrient deficiency. You need to mix it with their favorite foods, at the right dosage, to see any positive effect — other than serving as a general fertilizer. As I said before, I’m still OK with iron phosphate products, especially as they compare to metaldehyde products, but you can bet I’ll be spending more time stressing its drawbacks. Iron sulfate will start damaging moss in a matter of hours and effectively kill it within two days. A: Dandelion plants are difficult to kill because of the long (6-18 inches) tap root, small pieces of which can grow again. You can use iron sulphate on your lawn as a fertilizer, but not in theory as a moss-killer! Dandelions. Due to the fact that dandelion seeds can travel several miles on the wind, it is difficult, if not impossible, to have permanent removal of this weed from a garden or lawn. It’s not. Thanks! For example, they don’t want my rocket and the spicier of the salads, or pelagoniums, geraniums, herbs and aquiligia, which can be planted low down, while my tender seedlings and pots of mild lettuce are protected on a high shelf. Thank you for pointing out this important connection!! If it is the yeast they are attracted to I could just do yeast water? The hanging feeder has not needed to be refilled. There are several methods for dandelion control. I assumed that the compounds listed on the active ingredient list were really the only ingredients I needed to think about. I farmed hundreds of acres and applied feed grade calcium carbonate 80% of which goes through 200 mesh at a rate of 200# of actual calcium per acre. This year, 2015, I have caught the birds eating the Sluggo. I use it- carefully. I had a similar experience as Janet’s. Glyphosate, on the other hand, is non-selective and will kill both the moss and grass it comes into contact with. This ingredient is commonly found in fertilizers and won’t harm your lawn’s grass. Interesting question John. I will continue to use SLUGGO, sprinkled thinly, and only as an occasional backup for handpicking and habitat management. Log in or register to join the conversation. The iron sulphate AND potassium sulphate (ammonium sulphate can also be used sans FeS) acts generally as a fertiliser for both the bindiweed and the surrounding lawn you want to keep. I keep five bottles near my beans and peppers and maybe a half teaspoon in each. If you put in crap, somebody will come along quickly and remove it. Humans have the ability to metabolize small amounts of iron; to expel what they don’t use. In the abstract it said “large amounts”. This may be a silly question but is there any brand of beer slugs prefer? You might need to re-lay turf if there are large dead patches. I’ll take it to mean the FeHEDTA would not be attractive to earthworms. No. That can’t be good for them. The effects on humans symptoms similar to some pesticides, yet we imbibe it freely. If I had a choice, I’d give up worms to be rid of slugs also. I have been using aniron phosphate product for strawberries and hostas. Shake or stir until fully dissolved. Putting baits near plants you want to protect only draws them to where you don’t want them. How to Kill Dandelions in Your Lawn By Jaime Staufenbeil - Milorganite Agronomist March 30, 2019. Wiggle it about enough to get it out again, move forward a foot (or a third of a metre if you prefer) and do it again. If you don’t have a shovel, even a screwdriver or small hand rake will do the trick. But there had as of 2010 been plenty of documented illnesses, and it was clear that the product was not a health food, as the PR had virtually suggested. I have had a steady stream of birds all winter until this event. A method of controlling dandelions by spraying with iron sulphate . https://www.hostalibrary.org/firstlook/RRIronPhosphate.htm. Good luck with you’re soil structure without them! Too late now for this season, but next year, (apart from a weed and feed), I'd cut it twice a week. 1, No.7 has recently been developed. It has not rained here to wash it away. Does anyone know the quantity of iron phosphate bait consumed that caused the dog problems? Some other, newer, baits, such as Ferroxx or Slugexx do. Which is also hard work, also doesn't have to be done all in one go and also has an expensive and probably not very successful machine to do it. Thanks for the great post Jeff. I’ve never seen the birds do that before. Months, if you do it now. I’m not going to stop recommending iron phosphate – Still, I can’t recommend it quite as freely as I have been in my talks — I need to add some real caveats. signed : a trusting gardener. The most effective, but also the most time consuming, method for dandelion control is hand digging them. But either form of iron phosphate is more effective at low temperatures and in high humidity. Next time I will put the Sluggo just under my pots and under a piece of board, so birds cannot ingest it. EDTA is even present in some of our foods for various reasons. With that said, while researching this i've found 3 other topics i need to consider! To destroy the wood fungus need to dilute 1.5 kg of iron sulfate in 10 liters of water. has anyone tried a spray with neem oil? About 5 days after laying the pellets the bird life had dropped to 3 magpies (out of 2 dozen usual visitors) and one blackbird(out of the usual 6 or so). Various sources of information about FeHEDTA state it provides control or suppression of a number of common broadleaf lawn weeds (e.g., dandelion, English daisy, white clover, black medic, common chickweed, and broad-leaved plantain) but won’t injure grasses, making this a selective herbicide for use on lawns. They are eating every spot of Sluggo I put in the garden…very worrisome. Would they just crawl back out? (Some say that iron-based products can harm bentgrass, however.) Dandelions will grow in any level of calcium. This is looking way way more complicated than I had at first imagined! Just like Round-up, and almost any other pesticide you can name, there are other ingredients that help the active ingredients work — and that could cause issues.
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